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Given that our focus is on producing profitable, medium stature, high fitness cows its feels a bit odd asking a question in this thread!

However, we seem to have produced a great show calf that was 1st and Reserve Champion at a regional show. Given that we have only shown at two shows within the last 20 years, I am a wondering what height should a show calf/heifer be at 12 months (her current age) and at 15 months (when she will probably next be shown).

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I have some easy measurements: about 55'' at 12 months, and then about 2 inches every 3 months, and then you end up as a mature cow of about 65'', that's about our breeding goal, with sufficient strength and not too dairy, so not showable :-).
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The initial post in this thread is a pretty good bookmark.

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I by 4 Sully-Hart Meridian ET from Atwood Nekitta(denmark) from Shottle Neblina Family.
I get 2 Heifers and they are now 55 inches high at 10 months old. Is this to much??
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 I believe that you can definetly tell the difference between an honest aged heifer and an older heifer at the very least in the youngest 3 calf classes. Make a good study of their heads. The head shape of a baby calf is definetly different then an older heifer as they get older the shape and length of their head changes.This is true of all baby animals. Deer especially easily you can see this in.So next time you see that monster heifer in your class..take a look at the head.
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my question is, how do you get them this big?? if anyone can share their theories?
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Nutrition is everything as well as genetics. Very high protein % grain, no silage, a good top dress feed, de-worm every 6 weeks and a very good free choice coarse hay. Make sure all nutritional needs are met with a good vitamin/mineral supplement and probiotics. The goal is to maximize feed efficiency and keep the feed going to them

Some of the Holstein guys will admit to using rBST on heifers to improve growth rates.
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55 inches seems very, very big at 10 months old. 60 inches for a fall yearling/winter yearling at this point in the year is big. Are you measuring at the loin or the point of shoulder?
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I checked size shoulder now and it was 58,3 inches 12,5 months emoticon
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Nutrition is everything as well as genetics. Very high protein % grain, no silage, a good top dress feed, de-worm every 6 weeks and a very good free choice coarse hay. Make sure all nutritional needs are met with a good vitamin/mineral supplement and probiotics. The goal is to maximize feed efficiency and keep the feed going to them

Some of the Holstein guys will admit to using rBST on heifers to improve growth rates.



Mine just get grass silage and 1 kg of concentrate and the tallest is at exactly one year this week 57.5'' tall. I never deworm my calves, They get twice a year a mineral bolus, not supplements or other stuff. Mine are not show calves, by far to strong for that. This tall one is a Glauco from a Promotion x Lheros x Charles. So I think it's mainly genetics with just normal feeding. During summer my calves are outside in the field, no special treatment at all, just a shower now and then.
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yes dabble, high protein for sure, we try feed in the area of 23% protein, its after weaning that they seem to slow down a bit, normally wean at 12-16 weeks, do you guys feed milk for longer? i dont like heifers getting too fat pre puberty, so its always a conscious decision not to over do them, id rather have them bit smaller than too fat, i agree on the genetics having a huge play in the outcome
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