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Re: Sires to use on goldwyn blood with strength


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Glauco also came to my mind - actually what came to my mind was "BlackCaviar's italian bull with Allen in the pedigree".

I also thought something like Juror Ford would fit, it works well with Goldwyn blood but I don't have any name in mind right now containing Ford and being worth to use. Leif would be another idea of mine but the bull is old and no real heir to date.

And, Kingmambo, Vahura had a full brother that was more heavily used, Vernard. Decent cow family behind them but I'm not fond of Negundo. They tried to sell him as a type expert... but he couldn't match show guys standards and his daughters weren't relevant for commercial dairymen. Well, he is a Bellwood x Mascot and breeds like a Bellwood x Mascot. Not what I'd call a disaster but nothing I would consider now (and definitely not a source of strength).



A bull with Leif in the pedigree to consider might be AltaOak. His pedigree is Niagra X Leif, so somewhat different although he goes back to Missy (not so different but good cow family). Just freshened our first recently and I am pleased. His linear shows 1.66 for strength and AAA has his second number a 5. Watch out for calving ease.
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A bull that contains Ford would be Gold-N-Oaks S Showboy from the same family as Magnus he has plenty of strength and a great sire stack as well being a Shottle x Ford x Duster x Melwood.

http://www.ipssires.com/SHOWBOY.html

Another French bull that contains Juror through Gordon would be Ewok who is a son of Tennyson.He might not be classed as a great strength or type sire but he has positive width of chest and rump along with high milk and decent health traits.

Mr Donalynn Millennium looks like he could be a good choice for strength along with high production and type.

http://www.tag-by-st.com/en/fiche_h_usa.php?id=165

Vahura must of got lots of strength from his maternal family and apart from strength he has very little to offer I would rather use a bull with no strength like Coum Crac.
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I've a large group of Goldwyn granddaughters I don't see frail heifers at all . I see great heifers that are to tall . I'm breeding mine to supersire sons or mogul
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Re: Sires to use on goldwyn blood with strength


My choices are

Glauco
Windbrook
Equation
Savior
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My choices are

Glauco
Windbrook
Equation
Savior



be careful with windbrook on goldwyn, some goldwyn blood can throw the odd slow milker, and windbrook definitely won't help, although she'd be very pretty

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Re: Sires to use on goldwyn blood with strength


Sure yopu have to keep an eye on the Milkingspeed.

But if you look at the perfect cross on Goldwynblood there will be(new Sires):
Blitz
Dundee
Damion
Aftershock
Sid
and Windbrook

I really take my fingers away from Goldwyn.
If I have some Goldwyn in the Pedigree I use heavy arms like Stardust, Broker, Linjet, Red Marker :-))
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Belgium blue.
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Re: Sires to use on goldwyn blood with strength


Cogent Twist works really well on Goldwyn blood, adding loads of strength/width plus helping with temperament.
Obviously O-Man blood has proven to be a magic cross on Goldwyn with a large number of proven sons. Iota especially working well.
Also Supersire plus genomic bulls like Bayonet, Baloo, Diego, Dreamer and Estate should be good crosses with strength.
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Mogul or davinci seem to be coming nice here out of Goldwyn blood
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+1 on Goldnoaks S Showboy.
I'm milking one strong,deep but not real tall.Also think he could work in grazing herds.
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