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Juju, did you (or your dad) milk any Besnes? Just curious how they were except the one my neighbor had - slow milker.




Yes I did myself.
Large, big frame, milk machine but very deep udder.
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Lincoln had a full brother in Germany at that time, who was quite popular over there. Forgot about his name. Astronauts were to stubborn to die, Lincoln was double astronaut. My Rubens out of Lincoln is 5 times Astronaut. Nice piece of line breeding.




Hillstar? (Hanoverhill Starmann)



Yep that's him. thx
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Yes I did myself.
Large, big frame, milk machine but very deep udder.



That's how I was told they are, seems he sired them all the same. Have you used any Jocko or other Besne sons? I tried a bit of Lamballe as I liked his maternal grandsire Erbsen (Erbacres Valiant Captain for the non-french) but only got males.



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Lincoln had a full brother in Germany at that time, who was quite popular over there. Forgot about his name. Astronauts were to stubborn to die, Lincoln was double astronaut. My Rubens out of Lincoln is 5 times Astronaut. Nice piece of line breeding.




Hillstar? (Hanoverhill Starmann)



Yep that's him. thx



Always welcome. My little finger tells me germans should have used a bit more of him instead of Lux and Belt back then.

And agree with your idea of linebreeding on Astronaut, makes tough cows with high components. I also did like linebreeding on Sexation bloodlines, long lasting, good components, productive and marvelous udders. I often feel it's such a waste Europe didn't use more of their many Sexation sons, somehow their genes got lost with time and they were great cow makers.
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Yes I did myself.
Large, big frame, milk machine but very deep udder.



That's how I was told they are, seems he sired them all the same. Have you used any Jocko or other Besne sons? I tried a bit of Lamballe as I liked his maternal grandsire Erbsen (Erbacres Valiant Captain for the non-french) but only got males.




Only Jocko.
Good cows, but fore udder was very very poor.
He did the job that you asked him: milk during several lactations

My first 100T was a Jocko x Wade.
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Jocko's were high producing but extremely ugly cows.
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Jocko's were high producing but extremely ugly cows.



They were/are (know a bloke still using him) big profit cows. May not excite the classifier but when has that made a difference when selling milk.
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got here an Jocko heifercalf last night
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Only Jocko.
Good cows, but fore udder was very very poor.
He did the job that you asked him: milk during several lactations

My first 100T was a Jocko x Wade.



Seems like Wade appears quite often when it comes to old cows. Anyway congrats for your cow and mating Jocko on Wade is truly a no-nonsense cross.

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Jocko's were high producing but extremely ugly cows.



So were Labelles, not exciting to see but efficient and knowing how to milk and last. In my opinion he should be millionaire instead of the likes of Integrity.
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