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Slow milking speed


Looking through the latest semen brochures I can't help but notice the number of bulls rated as below average for milking speed. With so many bulls sired by Doorman obviously this is understandable with his sons due to his rating for this particular trait. Currently my milking is being held up by windbrook heifer who takes 15 minutes to give 15kg hence the concern!

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Most popular young sires right now are below average or average for milking speed : Doorman, Mccutchen (both got it from Bookem), Supersire, Jabir, Halogen
I'm using Mogul, Jacey, Numero Uno and Tango and their sons as milking speed improver.
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15 mins for 15kg is unforgiveable Mackie......the men with long sharp knives may be interested!!

Jokes aside it becomes a huge problem when one animal can slow down the whole process, definitely a trait that needs more attention

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15 mins for 15kg is unforgiveable Mackie......the men with long sharp knives may be interested!!

Jokes aside it becomes a huge problem when one animal can slow down the whole process, definitely a trait that needs more attention



Your right she's going to be heading that way before long by the look of it! Going to be a lot more people taking notice of this is the near future if there is as much blood out there carrying it.


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Re: Slow milking speed


I think it is almost an inevitable consequence of there being a lot of low scc bulls.

Personally, I think it is no bad thing, as long as the milking speed is not excessively slow.

On Windbrook, we are milking 5 and none of them are slow. I have more of an issue with their tramping around whilst preparing them for milking.
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errolston wrote:

I think it is almost an inevitable consequence of there being a lot of low scc bulls.

Personally, I think it is no bad thing, as long as the milking speed is not excessively slow.

On Windbrook, we are milking 5 and none of them are slow. I have more of an issue with their tramping around whilst preparing them for milking.



We've got 3 Windbrooks so far with more due this winter, one is fine for milking speed, one a bit slow and the other is the heifer mentioned.

Like everything in life its a balancing act having milked many Lucente daughters and seen the issues on the other end of the scale I'd tend to agree!


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With a milking system at 100%capacity that milking speed makes a huge difference. If I can create more turns in the system I can milk a couple percent more cows. That's huge. I've been looking at it a lot more closely the last couple of years and refuse to use builds with reduced speed. You can get good scc and high production and not be slow milking.

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drdiederich,

what bulls have you been using that meet these criteria?
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Troy (1HO11056) is one that I use. 105 for milking speed, SCS 2.74, milk 1112, CFP 104 and he even had a SCR of 3.6 to boot. I also use Puzzle (1HO10648), Rexford (1HO11038)though he's only 101 for speed, Junior (1HO10219) he's at 108 with milk@1909 and scs@2.87, and Bolt (1HO11014) 1604 for milk, CFP 75, SCS 2.93 and speed of 103.

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Re: Slow milking speed


Eric-Dew Quitecove Micheal is probably the fastest rated milking speed bull of all time with a rating of 121 if his SCS was not so high I could see him working well with Windbrook daughters.

 
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