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We are currently using a Sanchez x VG-88 Advent xVG-88 Talent x EX-90 Aeroline sister to Gibson and Cousteau
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Quit using herd sires, if they don't hold to AI they get a visit from Stuart our Angus sweeper, block calving system there is no room for late born dairy heifer calves

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still using our 2 threat [sign in to see URL] a contender son from meyerlane catamount (ex atwood x ex Damion x starbuck lili)that has left some nice calves to date.
Gone back to using semen from our counsellor son from the 90s
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With the sire of some of these bulls on the list being recessive carriers, do any of you test your bulls to make sure they are free of any undesirable recessives?
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We've started genomic testing some of our younger bulls now depending on the pedigree. I have my own personal herd within the herd and I genomic test almost every bull that I keep. I have two of my own that I'm really excited for right now. One is a Brigham son Baron (Reg#: 840003150913268). He is free of Goldwyn, Planet, Mogul and Bookem. The other is a Melarry Dark Horse named Dare (Reg#: 840003150913249). They both have pretty nice fertility and livability indexes and high component %'s but show low milk. I'm not really worried about their milk though as their dam is an EX94 Pronto x EX92 Durham x EX94 Charles and despite her PTA for milk of -1327 lbs she is over 184,000 lbs lifetime [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL], has completed 3 30,000+lb records and all of her offspring have been over herdmates. It's a family that I'm really excited about and so far no fertility affecting haplotypes have shown up on any genomic tested offspring.

Our current heifer bull is a polled bull (Reg#:840003143485986) that I'm really excited to get calves out of. He is Lawn Boy free and goes back to April-Day Verdejo. He's 2655GTPI, 731NM, +1785milk, and over 2 for the type indexes. I'm hoping for all three of these bulls to have a large impact on the herd and we'll hopefully be collecting all of them so that we can continue to use them once they're unsafe to handle.
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I hope they work well for u and it is good to see people using there own [sign in to see URL] what i can see u have very strong MDNA within your herd which i think is vital for using your own bulls especially when it is 80% female 20% male in a mating in most [sign in to see URL] would be a great path for commercial milk producers who want to use there own bulls would be to improve the MDNA of the herd through embryos or [sign in to see URL] we all had a herd of Dellia's would we need the studs i don't think so.

The Pronto cow looks a great cow have u ever thought of breeding her to Ocean View Zenith. I think Zenith could of being a great friend to Pronto/Outside daughters along with him being a Durham son u will bring in male Durham blood in the pedigree.
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Mitchmast, your Pronto cow sounds like the kind of cow I like to keep a bull from.

The bull running with my heifers at the moment is called Errolston Security and is sired by Beeze Maikman. Maikman is a son of Hoekland Maik (by Mascol) who is a leading longevity bull in the Netherlands. Maikman comes from the great Dutch Roza family.

The dam of our young bull is a 92pt(4yr) daughter of Co-op Don Juan, from our Scant family. A family which is a great source of high milk yield and components.

Granddam is a VG88 daughter of Bomaz Marion Emerald that has made some great milk records.

Great Granddam was a 91pt Fantasy Britt Gap daughter than did 90,000kg lifetime.

The bull has been seen by my aAa analyser who really liked the bull and thought he was a 165. He should be a nice cross on the heifers I am serving at the moment.

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Thank you KINGMAMBO. What we have tried to do is buy into strong cow families and create herd bulls from those families. We've bred many herd bulls going back through various daughters of Tony Rae's Lindy daughter that we were part owner of as well as bulls going back through an EX Lee from Chief Adeen and a Red Marker granddaughter of SD Tobi. We know that the dams of the bulls that we keep work in our system and the offspring compete well with the AI bulls we use. It also allows me to increase the influence of some AI bulls that are more expensive than I would prefer to use across the herd. Looking at 2018 data just over 63% of our approximately 100 calves were sired by our herd bulls. I haven't thought of Zenith on the Pronto yet. She is getting older and I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to flush her well. She's currently pregnant with an Airlift bull that I am looking forward to having on the ground to use. She has milking daughters by Gold Chip VG-86 (sold before I bought the Pronto), VG86 Bradnick, VG86 polled Magna and a VG86 2yr old Airlift that I'm really excited about. She also has unfresh daughters by Lindell (3), Mogul, Accelrenown (2), Golden Dreams, and Dark Horse. I try to mostly flush her to sexed semen to increase her maternal influence in the herd but two conventional bulls that I would really like to try on her are Damion and Shottle. I think both bulls mate nicely with her plus there are two cows from the Ardel family sired by the bulls that I really admire, M-Riverview Shtl Raquel and a Damion whose name escapes me right now.

errolston, it sounds like we are breeding for similar results. I haven't used the bulls you mentioned but I remember Emerald as being a bull I thought looked interesting from right before we started having an Accelerated rep. Once we had a rep we jumped very heavily on the Airlift train and he probably has more daughters than any other bull in the herd. The first ones are calved in very nicely and I hope they continue because we have about 25 under 2 yrs old. I haven't done much with aAa but I did have them out to analyze a bull and some cows for Triple-Hil Sires. They ended up not taking the bull (a Stormatic from the Pronto) but they were interested in her. We ended up deciding to flush her to Rex-PP-Red and hopefully they will get a bull they like from that mating. We have 2 male and 2 female pregnancies so far due starting in June and I have 5 #2 embryos to put in yet. The #1 embryos settled very well but the #2s are not settling at all yet, hopefully we get a few more yet. The Pronto flushes decently well, usually averaging about 6-8 implantable and around 50% or greater conception. I flushed her Airlift daughter as a heifer and she released 19 but only 2 ended up fertile at all and they were degenerate. I tested the semen and it was very poor quality. It looks like the flushing abilities passed down though so I'm excited about that. The Airlift also just had a polled Piranha-p son that is tested at [sign in to see URL] type and 1100 lbs milk. He should make another good herd bull from the family. I have a facebook photo album for the Pronto (she was my first purchase and I may have gone overboard on taking pictures of her) [url][sign in to see URL]
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just lately one of our ets has come back from Peel Valley AI where he was leased for about 5 years and we are back into using him real heavy .Foxleigh Liberator EX 92 is a Damion x EX 94 starbuck x EX 95 liberty rae xEX 94 lana rae. His oldest dau is VG88 on 3rd calf and won the 5yo in milk class of the Northern Vic onfarm [sign in to see URL] far every heifer classified has gone GP bar one on 78 2 days after she [sign in to see URL] 2nd calver classified has gone [sign in to see URL] he is running at 95% GP.I would suggest his daus are a lot like starbucks.
 we have been wanting to collect him for the USA but everyone seems to think they need aAa to breed a cow and we did his mating by looking at all 3 cows in Daves [sign in to see URL] we have been waiting 3 years for the aAa people to come ….. maybe may this year they said
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foxleigh I don't think I could get dad to order enough to make it worth shipping it here just for him but I'm pretty sure if I told him that pedigree I could get him to use some in a hurry. We love the bulls from that family. We've used many herd bulls going back on Lana's Stardust and Rudolph sisters we had here and love the results. A neat heifer we have right now at breeding age is a Skychief from Lana's VG88 Raider sister. I have some pretty high expectations for her based on how she looks now.
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