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Should the UK dairy companies not take note....


...of how many herd dispersals taking place this year?
In Scotland we aint talking small herds,one has 800 cows,the other [sign in to see URL] size does not mean things are any easier.
Are the public not more aware of the plight of our risen production costs compared to price received?
"Country Living" website..
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Scottish Daily Mail at the weekend did run an article saying that the price of a pinta would have to rise, citing the many dairy farms had left the industry.
They also had an interview with the owner of the 800cow herd being sold."Suicidal" was how he described milk prices.
Some of those MP`s in Westminster now have an idea with that report published,worth a quick read,they have got a grip of the problem i think..
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 If 25% of UK dairy farmers packed up as soon as possible it would make it a lot better for the rest of [sign in to see URL] milk price is not going to go up so we'll all have to go with the case that ''this could be as good as it is going to get for at least another 24 months or so''

 
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The milk price is unlikely to change for the forseeable future in my opinion. Too much UK milk goes into low value products that do not bring a premium in the market. Until we can address that issue we will be stuck in the current situation.
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So,its a case of "hang on in there",ride out the storm,become that little bit more efficient...
Ok,so the amount of milk produced is going down year on [sign in to see URL] tap is slowly being turned off...
When the supply goes lower than the demand level,even with prices rising,surely at some point it would be physically impossible to just up the production with whatever number of cows there would be,i am guessing the overall cow numbers would be down as well?

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Our milk price has risen with people leaving farms because of the drought. They were even talking about IMPORTING milk to cover contracts. They could of course pay us more so we can buy more feed.....

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So,its a case of "hang on in there",ride out the storm,become that little bit more efficient...





 Can you define efficient. because if you cut back feed you reduce milk yield and if you cut back fertiliser you reduce grass yield per acre.

  You could of course look at all the machinery in your shed and think do I need this gear? Would contractors be cheaper ?

  Am I paying too much for labour? Can I do with less staff?

 What about getting quotes for feed instead of sticking with the same feed company .. why not buy feed on a spec and put it out to tender?

 Fertiliser .. putting the right amounts of the right type on at the right time of year .. have you analysed the soil? Better use of manure and slurry ??


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The tap is slowly being turned off...






the rest of us have turned the taps on full.. so no chance there




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When the supply goes lower than the demand level






that will never happen in the UK










 
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According to IPAQUOTAS website,[sign in to see URL] litres less produced Jan07 compared to Jan06,cumulatively 87million litres less in the year to date,and the same last [sign in to see URL] that not turning the tap off slowly?

I agree totally about defining efficient,cutting feeding,fertiliser etc not the [sign in to see URL] costs that little bit more was what i meant.
My wife was a buyer for a large american mobile telecommunications company and every month they asked their suppliers if they could supply at a better price,every month.
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there is a limit to how hard you can cut costs before it affects productivity.
and craiglea the milk price is still less than in the mid 90s (96 Im thinking) with everything else gone up in [sign in to see URL] tho we have finally hit our autumn payments and the milk price has risen I still have way more bills to pay than our milk cheque will cover.
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Has anyone read the latest MDC update?

The Actual Milk Price Equivalent is at an all time high premium to IMPE , the world price for skim powder is up 75% on the year and even the butter price is up 10%on last March.

The processing companies have been very keen on referring to market conditions as a reason for all the price cuts since 1995 , so will they be falling over themselves to offer significant rises now?

Thought not.

But surely if the butter/powder market can return 19.5 ppl then
1) all other milk product prices need to rise
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2) If we can export butter/powder for that kind of money then there aint no sink products no more.
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we are currently carrying an overdraft of 20k a month (milk chq is currently around 38k) This is on a farm that is currently drought proof except for [sign in to see URL] week the corn will be chopped for silage so am expecting a bill of around 10000 and our round bale silage contracter has yet to bill me for the last 3 cuts another 6 grand.I see another bin of urea has arrived another 6 and then there will be the seed bill for 90 acres another 5 or 6 all ontop of the normal bis ie farm repayments,insurances,grainmix etc
.tralalala .....and the accountant thinks we are gonna have a tax problem......
last week the parmaat suppliers did a ring a round and organised over half of the northern suppliers to a meeting with management asking for a 6 - 8 cent a litre increase to help cover costs... we shall see

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