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Re: Should the UK dairy companies not take note....


Hanging on, and weathering this storm is what we've been doing for the past ten years. Promises that it'll only be for another year or two are getting very hollow indeed.

Milk powder is propping things up at the moment, but that won't last all that long. And farmers shouldn't treat it as a reprieve. Lots of people in my country have left the industry, but there are still too many that don't want to quit, despite working for nothing. I suppose that includes myself.

I had a low day yesterday. It was sunday, and there were problems and I was on my own and was tired. Its difficult to avoid thinking about how much you are getting for your trouble at the end of a day like that.

What we could do with now is the SFP wiped out overnight like New zealand got. But there isn't a monkeys chance - they'd rather we slowly and quietly suffocated to death.



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SFP wiped out overnight?
So I take it you are generating enough profits to do without it?
Over here,the suckler men,sheep men and ,i thought, most of the dairy men could not do without the SFP.
The idea that the SFP be kept separately from the farm bank account went out the window the day after it arrived in the bank!!
 
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Well, like it or not, it will be wiped out. Its a broken crutch, and theres no use leaning on it. Far better that the dairy companies and supermarkets would realise that we don't have any crutches to lean on other than a fair milk price, and thats the only reason we will sell them milk. Not so that we can sell milk for nothing and live off the sub.

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Surely the dairy companies realise we don`t have to milk cows to receive our SFP.We could sell the cows tomorrow and still receive our payment for the next 4 or 5 years.Maybe if we were all hard nosed businessmen we would be doing that and not carrying on just because we like working with cows.
Our idea is to invest a little of the SFP wisely in our setup,so we are hopefully(???) ready for it when it comes to an end,starting with the parlour which is so outdated(12/12 jars).But we will be doing all the building work ourselves and maybe even the stallwork.

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dairy companies and superarkets dont care about fair prices to farmers - all they are interested in is PROFIT - to themselves and their shareholders.
safeway here recently cancellled a broccoli grwers contract after he had a cold store ful of the stuff because they could get it cheaper from overseas - i heard it al went as stock feed at a big loss to the grower.The ceo of that company was heard to say on the radio that they get 35% profit on ALL sales of agricultural produce
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Yes I know we could all stop tommorow. But we don't, do we. We just keep mindlessly plugging on because we've got a lot tied up in it and a hunderd and one other reasons.

The 'decoupled' single farm payment is an indirect production subsidy, because we allow it to keep us alive. Every other industry would take the money and run. But we are farmers, we are different. They underestimated how much we are prepared to suffer til the bitter end.

Ok. I better lighten up before i'm heckled.

I don't disagree with your parlour improvements. Seeing as the money's there, you may as well do something useful in tax terms.

But I for one, would rather see a rationalisation of the dairy industry so that we could invest in our businesses with 'milk' money, rather than with a transition sub that isn't going to be there in five or less years time. The milk price is going to have to cover reinvestment and our time, or the industry will have to shut shop.

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Following on from the parlour updating bit, i have a question for the irish(and maybe UK)dairymen but think i better post it in the management section...
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quote:

scoobyscotlad wrote:

The tap is slowly being turned off...






the rest of us have turned the taps on full.. so no chance there




quote:

scoobyscotlad wrote:

When the supply goes lower than the demand level






that will never happen in the UK


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errolston wrote:

The milk price is unlikely to change for the forseeable future in my opinion. Too much UK milk goes into low value products that do not bring a premium in the market. Until we can address that issue we will be stuck in the current situation.











How things have changed in a little over a year...









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what you mean things not changed that much or are you rich
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Re: Should the UK dairy companies not take note....


I mean nobody thought the milk price would rise or that we could have a potential supply shortage in such a relatively short period of time,from back in March 2007.

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