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What inspector?

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I've always been honest with them, explained why we do it and showed them the results. None have really been able to argue with that one, they just can't put ticks in the right boxes and we lose 5 points or so! :arrh

Legally, the milk has to be inspected before it enters the tank, a jar parlour and clear(ish) silicon tubing satisfies that requirement.

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Our preparation routine is a wipe with a dry paper towel to get the milk coming, and rub off the sawdust.

At that stage, its fairly easy if you know your cows to see one with mastitis. You can just feel something not right when you're rubbing the bag, or when she walks in just not looking quite right, with the bag not filled right. Then you've got another chance when you see what she puts in the jar. Then we have another chance when post dipping. A blind man could see it then.

I think its only necessary if you've got an inattentive employee who needs mastitis to jump up and slap him in the face before he sees it.

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Do your robor cows get the little carwash-type cleaners over their teats (i saw robots once, pretty good setup)

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They do. We also have a herringbone.

The robots have a backflush if you call it that, with plain water.


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So I was bored and read this forum. And when I was in Ireland I was baffled by those with no milk prep procedure. But I guess if it works, it works. Can I ask some of you that don't prep cows, what your bacteria counts are, actual number? And I am also curious if you are using Dairymaster? The reason why I ask is this: with no milk prep procedure I can see the cows have a longer unit on-time than with milk prep. The one advantage to dairymaster is that the vacuum level fluctates and decreases as the cow becomes milked out - so less teat end damage. But I am thinking if milk prep was just used instead, the same result (less teat end damage) would be seen, due to less time of having the milker just hanging there?
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We don't prep, just wipe teats with an iodine wash. Standard Plate count less the 250 this last month, Coliform less then 1, SCC 134,000 on once a day milking.
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Isn't wiping the teats with an iodine wash though still prepping? When I was in Ireland, there was no prep at all. Just put the milker on, if I remember correctly.

So your SPC was 250, as in 250,000? Does that prevent milk quality bonuses? We can't have anything above 10,000 without a loss of premiums. I am just asking, that is all.
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Fitted a Green Oak cluster flush systme today, worked without a hitch tonight, worked out it will need to prevent 24 cases of mastitis to pay for itself.......3% interest over 24 months, hopeit worksas well as it should in theory!!!

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We do no prep in our 600 cow herd...
SPC - 2 (as in 2000)
BMCC - 156 (as in 156000)
As of yesterday

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