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we dont need to go on strike ..... mother nature is taking care of it for [sign in to see URL] lack of rain and thus no autumn [sign in to see URL] dry land feed .......high grain and hay costs due to low [sign in to see URL] are being sold up on a daily basis and mostly not to be milked [sign in to see URL] are shipping 20 to the works today and Im betting another 20 will leave after winter incentive drops in aug.



I hope this is sarcastic...

I want a free market for Dairy Business. We have increasing costs each day and decreasing incomes.


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I'm don't sure that with free market we are able to continue to produce in our country and also if we leave quota system we have the N law and with these we are at the level too...
You are stayed many times in Canada but you haven't learn emoticon !!!
In Italy we could increase of no more than 10-15% the production, however we don't get the self - sufficiency, for me there is only something to lose. We need to care the system also if our governement isn't able to manage that

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we dont need to go on strike ..... mother nature is taking care of it for [sign in to see URL] lack of rain and thus no autumn [sign in to see URL] dry land feed .......high grain and hay costs due to low [sign in to see URL] are being sold up on a daily basis and mostly not to be milked [sign in to see URL] are shipping 20 to the works today and Im betting another 20 will leave after winter incentive drops in aug.



I hope this is sarcastic...

I want a free market for Dairy Business. We have increasing costs each day and decreasing incomes.



im not being [sign in to see URL] have had 3 inches of rain in 5 [sign in to see URL] year rainfall was not much [sign in to see URL] current irrigation outlooks you will be lucky to buy as much as a peach next [sign in to see URL] ask the boys down the river who are trying to keep fruit trees [sign in to see URL] the milk prices drop here there will be another major exodus from the [sign in to see URL] have borrowed 100,000s of dollars on cow feed to get to here there is noway this can continue without a complete loss of equity.
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Jeff, we live in a world of red tape and legality. The key word is liability. Milk is traceable and tested along the way so that if anything untoward crops up, it can be isloated and someone can take the blame. The government wishes to see that it has done its bit for public health. The shop doesn't want product that will have gone off before the customer uses half of it, and both they and processors need to, in the event of a claim, be able to confirm that the product was processed and packed to accepted industry standards. Perhaps you should see pasturisation as a means of improving the product you make for the public.




Understood.. However, there are people who can't drink pasteurized/homogenized milk, but can drink raw milk. I know my own personal experience with regular milk or milk products from the stores. It has an after taste, and it doesn't settle right with me. The milk from the farm (ours), I have no problems with.. Of course it does help when the milk has a PI from 1-10k, bacteria of 1000 and Scc around 50-70k..


So yes there are the legal issues, but the real reason behind pasteurization is no longer a concern. It wasn't pathogens. It was due to those handling the milk (people with TB and other diseases), and the way it was handled. But even on some of the dirtiest farms, the milk is handled better than the way it was in the early part of the 20th century.. Even though, id be cautious from that type of farm..

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Keep Fightin'!!!

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The science behind the "raw milk" movement is less satisfactory than the science behind oregano usage. In Ohio this debate was raging, and is still finding its way through the courts. You can lease cows for raw milk, but not buy milk. One of the chief scientific experts put forward was a high school kid that took some plate samples on raw milk. I was underwhelmed.

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"Milk strike ends as farmers accept price rise. Switzerland's dairy farmers have negotiated a price increase of [sign in to see URL] ($[sign in to see URL]) per kilo of milk with the main processors, agreeing to end a weeklong strike."

Price from 1st July would be about [sign in to see URL] €/kg. They got about 10% increment. Hope German friends would get that too. Any news?

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Fair play to them!
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Price from 1st July would be about [sign in to see URL] €/kg. They got about 10% increment. Hope German friends would get that too. Any news?



There were some conversations between farmers, milk industry and big supermarket chains, but no results as yet.
Yesterday farmers blockaded many dairy plants. Thus no milk could go in and no milk products could be delivered. Some of them are still closed today. The police had to clear some of the blockades.
Obviously clearly less than 50% of the German milk has been delivered to the creameries yesterday and supermarkets are slowly running out of milk.
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Talk Price around???
In North Italy they are discussing about [sign in to see URL] €/lt.

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