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Physiolith (Timac)


Physiolith is a soil conditioner based on maerl. It is supposed to be a liming agent and I was told that 4 cwt / acre would be the equivalent of 2 tonne of lime.

Anyway soil test in Mar 2005 gave a ph of 5.4.
4 cwt/acre was applied in autumn 2006 and autumn 2007.

A soil test in July 2008 gave a ph of 5.2.

Not terribly impressed. 'emoticon'
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You're not the only one Dairylands, used it from 04 to 08 put on the equivalent of 4 tons of lime per acre and only got marginal increases in ph readings.
Back to 2 tons/acre of the bog standard pink dusty stuff and [sign in to see URL] turn to 6s and stay there.
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Ah! i'm sure the rep will have a very good answer for that, most likely along the lines of conventional measurements don't show what the product is really doing, and of course the benefits that can't be measured by conventional soil analysis etc... They will likely be at the winter fair on the 8th December tackle them there. :devil
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One rep recently told a customer that his bull wasn't that bad on fertility, 'It's the conversion that kills him.'

The fact he is the worst bull on their list in his home country and in the Uk may suggest that he is just bad for that trait.

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I had never heard of this until now.

Maerl have calcite deposits in their walls which is the main active constituent of lime. I would question the volume you were told to be equivalent of lime, I think its extremely underdone.

Without looking as specific composition I would have guessed that at least the equivalent amount would be needed if not more...

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Without looking as specific composition I would have guessed that at least the equivalent amount would be needed if not more...
.... and thats the problem, much too expensive to compare with similar application rates.
Reps all had a good counter argument as you suggest moore, but down the last few years as a few of them have left timac, they are conciding that it's a good product, just too expensive, by a long way.
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Further to previous post : rep was speaking at our buying group agm (where were you FOAF) he sends soil samples to America for "correct" analysis for as little as £163 per sample , he said yes it was pricey but can you put a price on the benefits that he can bring to your farm!!!
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We're trying a similar product to Timac - "Son of Timac" as my Dad calls it - having done a deal with the merchant that its the same price per tonne as normal fertiliser. I'll let you know how it goes.
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