James Johnston
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Silage additve???
What silage additive do you use(if any) and what do you think it?
How dose it preform? (marks out of ten)
How much dose it cost? (per ton treated)
Is it money well spent?
Have you used other brands? (marks out of 10)
Has anyone used Pioner 1188? (may use pioner on tuesday and would like to here from someone who has used it before)
--- Milking 100 cows on grass based system near Glagow.
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22/5/2004, 23:15
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moore
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Re: Silage additve???
additives are a nightmare.
I have used Pioneer for alot of years mainly as it has all the stars .
However my grass went in on the 17th and i used Ecosyl,just for a change really.
The grass had been mowed dry on the 14th,full width of the mower and got well sunned upon over the weekend.Possibly didn't need aditive as the sun is the best there is, but the additive is an insurance policy.
By the way James what about the new milking parlour?
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23/5/2004, 7:56
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Brian
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Re: Silage additve???
We used Genus Powerstart last year, but weren't too confident so we sealed off a sample in the middle of the pit, without additive. We sampled both during the winter.
VFA's on the treated silage went down to near zero and lactics doubled, not to mention how much better it smelled! Dont know if its worth the money but we used it again this year, I'm pretty confident it'll do a good job.
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23/5/2004, 8:25
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Re: Silage additve???
we always use inoculant on our corn silage and to my knowledge each contractor uses a different brand.From the end result they all seem to work.inoculant wont make bad silage better!
we would like to use incoulant in our round bale lucerne silage as well as our clover rye silages and even offered to buy the setup for our contracter but no go.it appears that next spring we will chop our rye/clover silages rather than round bale them as we need to cut costs further.ive no doubt that we will innoculate that.
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23/5/2004, 13:40
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James Johnston
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Re: Silage additve???
Hi Moore,
The new parlor as been put on the back burner for a while, just dont have the money! We have a small landfill in the pipeline, which will hopefully ease the cash-flow.
--- Milking 100 cows on grass based system near Glagow.
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23/5/2004, 23:48
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Re: Silage additve???
We wanted to try powerstart this year, as we have never previously used an inoculant, but our contractor is very convienently not set up to use inoculants, so it just went in an normal with nothing on, it did get a good wilt though and should be fine, fingers crossed
--- Work in Dairy Research. Still involved in home farm, Inishowen Holsteins and Knock Texels!! Herd average 7, 500kg on grass based diet, av. classification running around 82 - 83 pts. Need a good Texel ram, talk to me!!!!!!!
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24/5/2004, 9:43
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Re: Silage additve???
A rule of thumb I always farm by is: The better quality of feeds you harvest, the better it comes out.
Amazed at some who dont time there harvest with weather patterns or maturity levels and end up putting less quality feeds only to complain when it comes out burnt or with toxins.
In regards to Innoculants they can be costly, I avoid them in any structure I plan to begining feeding a couple of weeks later to the cows.
During Fall corn harvest, we fill 4 uprights in a 3 day period only use Innoculants in the last 4 loads, then cover with black plastic and a thin top level of silage to hold plastic in place, by the time we open the structure months later waste is a mater of inches instead of feet.
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28/5/2004, 18:28
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Re: Silage additve???
I have heard by several people, save your money, only use it on the top 1/3 to 1/4 of any upright silo.
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28/5/2004, 22:31
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James Johnston
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Re: Silage additve???
I dont have a silo, i have a 30x120ft pit, a weather pattern so eratic most Candadins wouldent beleive and can realy only grow grass silage(too cold and wet for maize(corn) or even holcrop wheat. :mad
--- Milking 100 cows on grass based system near Glagow.
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28/5/2004, 22:45
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Re: Silage additve???
Join the club James, though this year we have been extremely fortunate and cut during good weather and at the leafy stage, everything points towards a good silage but still the fingers will be crossed come opening time in october
--- Work in Dairy Research. Still involved in home farm, Inishowen Holsteins and Knock Texels!! Herd average 7, 500kg on grass based diet, av. classification running around 82 - 83 pts. Need a good Texel ram, talk to me!!!!!!!
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29/5/2004, 13:08
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