Minnesota56062
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Re: Armani RC
I see him being used know in a lot of high end flushes! I haven't seen any yet but he must be throwing something special for people to be using him!
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18/1/2014, 17:44
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dabble1980
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Re: Armani RC
Some of the best young heifers in the USA are sired by Armani. Be prepared for big things from this bull this year!!
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20/1/2014, 17:43
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Valiant97
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Re: Armani RC
Just looked on CDN and the oldest daughters are a year old. Does anybody have any of these older ones? If so how are they? I doubt I can run a negative milk bull thats genomic by the old man. Anyone think hid milk will be as bad as his genomics say? Most brothers are pretty bad for milk.
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20/1/2014, 21:50
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dabble1980
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Re: Armani RC
Reps are saying he is not as bad on milk as his proof is portraying. If fed right and managed right; will milk well. The heifers are very fancy. I like them better than the atwoods
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21/1/2014, 17:04
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AldrichFarms
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Re: Armani RC
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dabble1980 wrote:
I like them better than the atwoods
That says a lot. I think he's the better choice over absolute red too.
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21/1/2014, 19:57
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dabble1980
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Re: Armani RC
They have more width in their rumps and front ends that Atwood. Apple herself has a very strong frame. They are also naturally deeper in the frame than most of the Atwood heifers out there.
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21/1/2014, 20:11
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craethke
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Re: Armani RC
So, how many milking Armani's are there? He is only a little over 3 yrs of age with no milking dtrs in his proof, and reps are already saying that his dtrs will milk better than his genomics? That is simply a sales pitch, purely fabricated, also called a lie, or speculation, and you believe it because you want to Dabble. You criticize other genomic young sires, Armani is in the same boat. You have a love affair with Apple, and she is a GREAT COW, but don't be fooled by unethical sales reps telling you what you want to hear.
Armani may be a terrific bull, but sales reps have no inside info, just speculation. Buy Armani because you like the bull, nothing else. If his genomics drop like most other young sires, and he sires high type and components, and not much milk -1000 or so, you've been informed.
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22/1/2014, 22:30
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dabble1980
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Re: Armani RC
why would you pick a Goldwyn x Apple based off of genomics? he isn't a genomic bull. He is a type sire.
I'm milking 2 Absolutes and despite of his proof; they are milking just fine.
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23/1/2014, 14:37
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craethke
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Re: Armani RC
Your classification of bulls is pretty bizarre actually, he has been genomic tested, and he is a young sire, so I think that makes him a genomic young sire. No milking dtrs, and info based on a reading of his DNA. He is no different than Halogen, Mogul, McCutchen, etc... except you have a love affair with Apple because she is a show cow and red. The statement that his dtrs will outmilk his proof is speculation and fabrication and pure BS, and those are the facts.
So, if Armani had a genomic proof of -2000 milk and 1.5 on type and 1.5 udders, you would still use him? Or, if there are several full brothers by Goldwyn, you would use them all with no differentiation between them, because they all will be great? That appears to be what you are saying. You are in fact choosing, based on pedigree AND a favorable linear, based on DNA, and that makes him a GENOMIC young sire.
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23/1/2014, 14:48
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RW Holsteins
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Re: Armani RC
I am sure you know i love apple and her sons by now. But I agree craethke, Armani is a genomic bull, which I beleive all young sires get a genomic test these days. "Genomic" is the fancy new term for "Young Sire". Now we can definetly divide these genomic bulls into type, health or production groups by their genomic numbers for discusions.
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23/1/2014, 15:19
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