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 DMSP versus Goodlatte-Scott


Ok, someone that understands this stuff more than me, which do I support? I have received mailers and email, and I read all about it daily. I am flummoxed. Both claim that the other is trying to hurt "small" farmers(me), both sides claim that consumers will be hurt, both sides claim that the other side is trying to cost US Taxpayers money.

The only thing that I don't like is that milk processors seem to be supporting Goodlatte-Scott. Which removes production controls. Which to me signals the processors want as much milk as they can get their paws on. Dairy Market Stabilization Program seems to be sponsored by the co-ops, but they tend to lean towards protecting big producers more than the little guys.

What are the opinions of other US producers?

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Re: DMSP versus Goodlatte-Scott


I probably don't understand much more than you buckeye, but the Goodlatte-Scott amendment wiping out the production controls seems to only benefit the huge producers to me. It's no secret that the processors are after tons of cheap milk, the more the better.

I send my milk to AMPI and they have been supporters of DMSP. I agree that coops (along with everyone else) seem to care more about the big guys, but I would think that farmers getting paid more for milk only helps a milk marketing cooperative??

I surely don't know every detail of either argument but I personally have to say that I support the DMSP over G-S.

I heard the farm bill was voted down the other day so anybody know if this is all out the window now anyway, or what now??
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I like GS better. Production controls hurt the smaller dairy more. To cut production 3% is easy if you have thousands of cows...if you only have 50, it is harsher. You sell a cow and cut more than 3% or you just give away the milk to the processor but still have the production costs. In fairness, I have 300 cows with plans for more. I also have a problem with someone forcing me with production controls

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Re: DMSP versus Goodlatte-Scott


Cutting 3% production yields about the same money as loosing 50 cents in milk price and keeping steady production. Only there is 3% less milk on the market, meaning that hopefully demand should grow.

When the price drops 50 cents who has the easier option of adding cows to offset the loss, the guy with 50 cows or the guy with 1000? That results in even more surplus milk on the market and demand goes the other way.

All that said I'm not really in favor of the government controlling everything about my farm either. Maybe something like the DMSP would work better than subsidizing poor operations that shouldn't be selling milk anyway.

Maybe they shouldn't leave the loopholes in the new SCC regulations that let poor operations keep going either.

Im not saying the DMSP is perfect. It is what we have in the farm bill now that I think can help keep the good small farms make a decent living.

I don't really know what it will do to prices consumers pay. The processors have such a tight grip on that that the prices in the store go up when our price goes up, but do store prices drop much when our price plummets?
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