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A different showing class?


Perhaps this is the wrong place to be posting this, considering some of the highly esteemed pedigree breeders who contribute to cowtalk, but here goes!

Today was our local 'Clogher Valley Show' one of the best provincial shows in our wee country (I know - I'm biased!) but according to those who were there at the time the turn out in the Dairy Cattle section was unfortunately poor. Not long ago the CVS hosted the final for quite a prestigious dairy show, but alas - no more. I was chatting to another guy and we reckon we may have come up with a new idea to revitalise the show!

A NON PEDIGREE Dairy section!! emoticon :blinker emoticon
The CVS used to, years and years ago, play host to a Dairy cattle class which was open only to commercial cows. At the time (I don't remember it - Dad tells me!) it was quite popular and got a fair bit of local support. So what would the potential be for such a category? Open to Non-pedigree stock of all colours and breeds - even CROSS BRED ones!! emoticon

Are there any such events taking place elsewhere, or are all show rings dominated by the BIG GUYS (no offence intended!)

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Re: A different showing class?


oh jaysus the steam will come out of ears now!!
Don't know of any show like that to be honest!!
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Will, where I grew up in Australia, it was the home of the Illawarra cow (red breed) the local show had actually 2 sections for it , the high flyers if you like to call them that, then the section for the young bloke who was just starting out. You where not allowed to show in both sections.
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They used to do this at Enniskillen show as well, classes were divided by age.

They mainly disappeared due to lack of entries, but it might be something you could trial at Clogher Valley

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Will, you could go down the more orthodox route! ie,buy a show calf for "the cub"(there are breeders in your area who could oblige).Showing a calf is usually less hassle than inmilk [sign in to see URL] the young lad,and yourself along to the HYB meetings, they are a great way of meeting like minded people and learning about showing!
This worked for our children,and the family had much "quality time" at HYB events and shows
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At our local show, non-pedigree (dairy) cattle can compete in the interbreed classes but local shows need the support of the locals. Confined/Junior/Novice classes maybe the way to go.
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Re: A different showing class?


Thanks JAP1, are you offering?!!

What I'm getting at is that that the turn-out of purebred 'flashy' dairy stock at CVS this year was diabolically low, and as someone else said, the fancy show cows are quite far removed from the 'normal' cow as you might find (for example) on Ballygreenan Farm, outside Augher!!

Yet I see cows my farm and on other folks farms that appeal to me slightly more than the extreme, angular purebred animals, which are pampered and preened, live in a comfy straw bed and get all the tlc going! Don't get me wrong, there is a place for these cows, and they breed exceptional daughters and sons. However I need a cow that can walk 1/2 a mile to and from the parlour twice a day without needing too much foot-care, produce a reasonable amount of milk with low SCC and decent BF% and PRO%, get back in calf and deliver said calf - ALIVE, and then do the same thing over and over again, for more than 2.5 lactations!!

Moneyquin, I like the sound of your idea, the other problem Dad and I realised today is that 90% of those involved in the dairy section at CVS are no longer active dairy farmers!! emoticonOH:

A cousin of mine is fairly heavily involved with the Commercial Cattle Exhibitors Club, who show Beef cattle, they seem to work well side-by-side with the purebred Charolais, Limousin, Hereford, Aberdeen Angus, etc, etc...... So why don't we have something similar for our wee milky dolls?!!

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it would be great to have commerical dairy cattle competing at all shows
no excess fitting --just good genuine dairy cows
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So did you have any success in getting commercial grade cattle into the show ring?
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Just to throw something slightly different into the mix......

I went to a show in France nearly twenty years ago where every milking animal shown had to be milked out in front of stewards within a time frame before the classes, so everyone on a reasonably level playing field and the cow less influenced by the quality of the fitter.
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