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E-Coli Mastitis


What is your best treatment for this type of mastitis, We have been treating cows with 60cc of TET100 in the vain. and Solu-Delta-Cortef. Anything out there that works better or a home Brew.
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First make sure you vaccinate with Endovac Bovi with Immuneboost, or proper J5 protocol. Since we did this we don't get severe cases, and the cows bounce back pretty well from the cases that do pop up.

Depends on the severity of the case I have used 5cc of Tet 200+ 30cc Spectam(+5cc of Dexamethazone if she is open) in the quarter, along with 10cc Predef (only in preg cows, I prefer Dex). Hold time is 4-5 days.

If really bad big dose Tet 200 IV, 10cc Dex IM, and 60cc hypersaline in quarter, quarter stripped out 4-5 times during the day. This is obviously off label so make sure your vet approves/signs off on this.

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Buckeye,
 Is the spectam the oral type for pigs or the injectable. Could you be a little clearer on the Dex or Predef. Do you use both or one or the other depending on if she is open or preg. This is a pretty Hot load going up the teat.
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Spectam injectable, we use Adspec.

Dex or Predef, depending on pregnancy status. Obviously no Dex to preg cows.

I don't like to lose quarters or cows. I have yet to lose a battle to ecoli using this system. The key is the Endovac Bovi, I like it better than J5. It is easier and the cows seem to fight stuff off easier. I have not had a downer from Ecoli in 4 years since we went hardcore J5 and then switched to Endovac this year. Calf health has improved with Endovac.

If you are worried about the hold times try it and check it yourself. Use the appropriate CHARM or SNAP test. Often I put the healthy quarters in after 4-5 days and continue stripping out the infected quarter until the milk tests ok on CMT test. I recieve a good SCC bonus, so I pay particular attention to which quarters are healthy and which are not. I know you milk more cows so some of the attention to detail for each cow may be a little hard to get, but the other key is to catch that first milking where something is not quite right, ie swelling, off on milk, mastitis, anything. I do all the milking on our setup and while I spend way to long doing it, I do know the cows inside and out.

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Its hard to beat one man knowing the cows. Its the thing that always troubled me the most about the idea of a relief milking service.


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That is the hardest thing I deal with. With 4 full time milkers and a relief, were fighting mastitis all the time and when the relief is milking it is even worse. I wish I could maqke a good living just by myself and do the milking.
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Managing cows is hard. Managing men to manage cows is........well........



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all i read in this thread is how we treat mastitis
i understand that clinical cases have to be treated
It scares me to think how much mastitis are you treating
you primary objective is to ensure that the area that your cows are is clean dry well ventilated
that your milking machine is working correctly
score your teats
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 I'm sure all of us on here are more than capable of looking after cows, sometimes there are limitations of buildings,environments that we work in which cost a fortune to change.
  When did you last milk a cow ????

     
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I dont milk cows
I help and advise farmers on a daily basis on milking machine performance and mastitis control i have been running my business for over 25 yrs
i can appreciate your comments but your reaction is typical of the farmers i deal with there anwser is how often do you milk cows? i cant afford it, i have treated 5 cows a week for years thats how its always been.i am not suggesting you can eliminate mastitis i dont believe in miracles , you must set goals that you feel you can achieve
If you calculate the loss in milk the distress to the cow and cowman the ammount you spend on drugs the loss of payments due to high cell counts then you can judge for yourself that prevention is better than treatment, i state treatment as there is no cure for mastitis
thank you for your reply
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