dabble1980
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The cows with straighter legs in our herd do much better in the freestalls here. They are sounder cows. That is why you must breed for stature and leg set. Here; 62 inches is as big as I want them. Anything larger cannot get out of the stall and barely makes it to a 3rd lactation. The cows with more angle in their hock and pastern go lame much faster and have a more difficult time travelling to the parlor or to eat as their legs cannot support their frames as they age.
I did not like my shottle daughters but I love my daughters sired by Shottle sons. The ideal freestall cows with well attached udders and very mobile. I have three FORCE daughters (Shottle x Roy Frosty) and they are scored 83, 85, 86 as two year olds. My Aftershocks are mediocre. If they have Goldwyn blood on the dam side they can be a tad more fancy. For those part they are nothing special, just do their jobs and go unnoticed which isn't always a bad thing. Just wish they had a little more going for them in the looks department
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25/7/2014, 14:18
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craethke
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Re: Top two commercial bulls
Just curious Dabble, why must you breed for Stature? So cows don't get too big, or because your cows are already too big and you are trying to moderate their size?
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25/7/2014, 15:38
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BlackCaviar
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quote: dabble1980 wrote:
The cows with straighter legs in our herd do much better in the freestalls here. They are sounder cows. That is why you must breed for stature and leg set. Here; 62 inches is as big as I want them. Anything larger cannot get out of the stall and barely makes it to a 3rd lactation. The cows with more angle in their hock and pastern go lame much faster and have a more difficult time travelling to the parlor or to eat as their legs cannot support their frames as they age.
Oops, my smallest one is 62'', they average 64'' :-). Luckily I can manage my cows, but I'm not a regular farmer, I only have a few.
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25/7/2014, 16:37
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errolston
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Re: Top two commercial bulls
I would probably pick Cogent Twist and then it would be a toss up between Regancrest Alta Iota and Wintersell Milo. As someone else said it depends on your milk contract. Milo has higher component percentages, Iota much more milk.
If the milk contract was for white water I would probably use a lot of Baxter ahead of Twist.
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28/7/2014, 9:22
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titantom
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Re: Top two commercial bulls
Cogent employee...
but Milo is a tremendous all-round bull 82% GP or better on 62 daughters, good components, decent type, good fertility, calving ease, nice aAa numbers, A2 milk for the aussies!
Errolston, I'm sure you are glad to see he made it, as you purchased the bull!
I really like the look of Iota, looks of good reports on him too.
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28/7/2014, 12:51
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