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Ok.....
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8/3/2015, 17:35
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Kids still getting on your nerves by any chance there Buckeye?
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8/3/2015, 20:22
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Re: Seagull-Bay Supersire
Just succumb to the power of the Narwhal.
Obviously Supersires are just like Narwhals, they are awesome.
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9/3/2015, 12:47
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Polytechnic Imperial Knight
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I remember seeing a Robust at Sunshine Genetics last year and thinking that it was a rather ugly 2-year-old. Reminded me of the horror that was Welcome Garter.
So no, no Supersire for me thanks.
Besides, it makes me rather depressing to think that his great-grandfather, Blitz, was probably one of the best bulls we have ever used on the farm.
This may be a step forward in health traits, but it's certainly a giant step backward in type.
I'll stick with Monument Impression
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24/3/2015, 23:17
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Seen some supersires. Nothing wrong with the type of them.
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25/3/2015, 0:53
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Re: Seagull-Bay Supersire
So, based on 1 daughter you made a decision on a bull, and his son also. Nothing like an open mind when breeding cows. Maybe a little premature? And, no I don't care if it is Supersire or any other bull, wouldn't it be more informative to see 20 or 30 or 40 dtrs in person to form an idea one way or another.
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25/3/2015, 2:28
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Polytechnic Imperial Knight
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That still doesn't change the fact that
1. He isn't a very strong bull.
2. The other Robust daughters I have seen in pictures are not that great.
3. Most of what made Blitz and his descendants great is completely eradicated here, except for maybe the milk.
4. His pedigree relies too much on O-Man, and even has some Shottle and Planet (not that I have anything against Shottle or Planet, but considering how ugly the inbreeding problem is going to get in the near future Outcross bulls have become a top priority for me- especially when we have used 10+ Shottle sons, numerous maternal grandsons and a few Planet sons)
5. He appears to transmit somewhat deep udders
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25/3/2015, 2:51
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Re: Seagull-Bay Supersire
It appears as though we are having a few different conversations here. A few thoughts: If outcross is what you are after he is not the bull for you-doesn't mean Supersire isn't a good bull.
We are milking 4 second calf Robusts and like them really well, good udders, his proof is accurate.
aAa is 321 on Supersire, he has always been an average udder depth bull, take into account he is supposed to be an extreme production bull-won't be grapefruits in the udder department.
Would not base bull use decisions on photos for the obvious reasons.
Use who you want, suggesting that 1 dtr is not a good indicator of type pattern.
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25/3/2015, 3:17
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The ones I saw were fairly fresh but were not deep in the udder at all.
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25/3/2015, 3:23
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Re: Seagull-Bay Supersire
Monument Impression calves are really nice!
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25/3/2015, 10:47
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