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Is there anyone on Cowtalk that can tell me whether genomic testing of owners own bulls is possible in the Ayrshire breed in Canada and the US, as it is in Holsteins?

I have been looking at the Canadian Ayrshire LPI list on CDN and it is dominated by the same SRB sires that appear in the pedigrees of my Viking/Scandinavian Red cows .... so it occurred to me that as these genotypes were already in the reference population for Ayrshire genomics that it might be possible to get my Reds tested on the Ayrshire base.

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That is something that we have not been able to get a clear answer on ourselves.

Some of the Viking Reds have been allowed to be used in the Ayrshire and the Milking Shorthorn but no one has been able to verify that genomic information is available.

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We have been in contact with the USDA concerning the genomic testing of the "Red" breeds.

From my understanding there is the possibility of doing a genomic test with the USDA.

Anyone interested, Please contact us and we will provide you with more information.
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I've got blood samples on a card and ready to send in for some of my Red animals, I'll let you know how it turns out!

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Just got results back on a heifer and a bull, waiting on results for another bull.

So it does work, and these animals have Holstein lurking in their pedigree a few generations back.

I did the testing through Neogen/GeneSeek/igenity.

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Jonny,

Are the results in line with what you expected from the converted proofs of the sire and grandsire?

Who did you send the sample and what breed base was it assessed on? Ayrshire?

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They are tested on Ayrshire base.

Pretty much what I expected, maybe even a little better. The best apples to apples comparison would be some of the Ayrshires Semex markets that have strong Nordic Red influences.

My polled bull came out $440 net merit which would be the #2 net merit Ayrshire bull in North America. Bring the European bulls into the equation and he'd be further down the list.

The heifer I tested actually came out higher than the bull, at $474 net merit despite having Royal Treble as a grandsire, an Australian Illawarra bull that has really come through with a terrible proof in the US.

edit: Sample was processed through NeoGen

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Jon - How do you plan on using this information? Was it worth the cost? Will you continue testing?
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Jon - How do you plan on using this information? Was it worth the cost? Will you continue testing?



I'll continue to develop my small herd of Reds (North American Red is what they are registered as).

With the bulls, I could take a few routes. Gauge interest from studs but the other option would be self collecting these bulls at a place like Hawkeye and marketing the semen myself. Obviously a niche market but I've priced it out and I wouldn't have to sell all that much semen to break even.

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Interesting, let me know when you have something marketable, I just might be tempted to buy a rack out of curiosity
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