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Is anyone practising this?

It is getting a lot of press over here that cows with consistently low cell counts will get by with just a teat sealer and no antibiotic tube at drying off. Supposed to help with the problem of bacteria becoming immune to the drugs.

Tried it with an empty cow that was being dried off for [sign in to see URL] case of [sign in to see URL] I have seen, will be lucky if she pulls through, needless to say the antibiotic tubes will be back in play for the next one regardless of her cell count history

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I've done a few batches of cows this autumn and got on OK.
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We tried it a couple of years ago and it was a fair sized disaster.

I don't think I got the teat sealant application right, too much went up into the udder to be properly effective.

I'm about to try again on a very limited basis as it looks like Arla are going to move us in that direction.
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At some point agriculture may be forced to give up some antibiotics, blanket dry cow therapy will be the first to go in my estimation.
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mckeague wrote:

Is anyone practising this?

It is getting a lot of press over here that cows with consistently low cell counts will get by with just a teat sealer and no antibiotic tube at drying off. Supposed to help with the problem of bacteria becoming immune to the drugs.

Tried it with an empty cow that was being dried off for [sign in to see URL] case of [sign in to see URL] I have seen, will be lucky if she pulls through, needless to say the antibiotic tubes will be back in play for the next one regardless of her cell count history



I had exactly the same experience sickest cow I've ever had with mastitis, and that was with me following the vets protocols to the finest detail when tubing the cow with sealant!

Our Tesco supplier group had a mastitis meeting with Rob Smith (University of Liverpool) who is their farm vet on the uni farm where Tesco carry out various studies.

I quizzed him about the wisdom of selective dry cow therapy and whether or not it was going to become compulsory. His answer was the type of antibiotic used in dry cow tubes is not of any worry as far as human resistance is concerned (with exception of Cephaguard i think it was) and that resistance was largely down to over prescription in humans rather than Agriculural over use.

In saying that the review of our milk contract has changed what data we have to record, with a tally for any selective dry cow treatments now one. Also helps improve your "score" they are using to sort out their producers into best to worst!



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I've been thinking about doing it. If we do I won't be using teat sealer, I think it just asks for issues. If it was possible to be totally sterile it would be ok but cows don't know to stay still and not kick manure everywhere.
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We've been doing it for 18 months. Anything with no cases of mastitis that lactation and with the four previous months under 150 cell count.
Only using antibiotics on about 30% of dry cows if that and no problems at all.

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We've been doing it for 18 months. Anything with no cases of mastitis that lactation and with the four previous months under 150 cell count.
Only using antibiotics on about 30% of dry cows if that and no problems at all.



Are you using teat seal on those without antibiotics.
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Mackie88: Not sure it matters if it relates to human medicine for antibiotic resistance or not. Overuse of antibiotics will result in resistance for mastitis-causing pathogens. It isn't just a human issue. Plus dry cow therapy is pretty expensive, the use will most likely continue to decline for economic purposes, as well as public perception.
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Presumably dry cow therapy developed in response to a need for it. With the milk yields we are achieving now it seems unlikely that we can live without it.
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