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My vet says that there is a school of thought that you can have an scc that is too low. The thinking goes that these cows don't have enough "good bugs" to protect themselves.




I would tend to agree Errolston, I have noticed that any really low cell count cows that are unfortunate enough to get mastitis always get it really bad! Somatic cells are there to fight bacteria so if you have very low levels there are not enough of them to fight a bad infection.


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The one we had that got the bad [sign in to see URL] infection after getting the teat seal only had an average SCC of 17!!!
yes that is 1 and 7
expensive selective therapy if you ask me



From some of the info at the meeting I'd say that as an industry if we don't take steps to cut blanket dry cow therapy the regulators will do it for us.




I know its coming down the line Big Bird, I don't like it [sign in to see URL] is going to compensate farmers where losses of quarters (or cows) occurs?
Is it just something we will have to live with?

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I don't see why we should be compensated. overuse of antibiotics like blanket dry cow is bad practice. As much as we were encouraged to do it no one forced blanket dry cow on us. It's time is quickly coming to an end. Look at is as a positive rather than a negative.
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I think I only dry cowed about 8 older cows in the last 12 months.
We supply premium milk to parmalat so our rolling BMCC is always under 200,000.
We don't aim to be super low because they don't pay us anymore for our milk.
my husband believes that there is no point introducing foreign objects and substances into a healthy quarter.
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my husband believes that there is no point introducing foreign objects and substances into a healthy quarter.



I would agree with that thinking.

Vets were pushing dry tubing heifers. Ridiculous and irresponsible if you ask me.
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someone asked me recently if we were organic because we didn't dry cow which we are not and another friend with 500 cows said "gee you must save a heap of money not drycowing"
Been here 21 years and barely buy more than 20 tubes of orbenin endure a year and then use most of it in eyes.
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I did an experiment and dried off 50 cows with low cell counts and went no antibiotics and no teat seal to see how they go. I've never been comfortable with dry treating cows with nothing wrong.

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I have not been dry treating the last 6 months or more, so far no problem. Never have used teat sealants
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