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Cluster Flush Systems


We have been sampling our cows with mastitis recently and discovered that Staph Aureus has been the main culprit.

I am contemplating a cluster flush system.

What are other people's thoughts and experiences?
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We have ADF, don't get any Staph Aureus at all.
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What is your milking routine like? Wear gloves at milking?

There are a number of things that can cause Staph Aureus mastitis -- one of them is milking without gloves -- staph loves to grow on skin.

Research has not been too kind to backflush systems - I would suggest other management changes first before that investment.
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We do milk with gloves.

We use disposable disinfectant wipes. sort of like baby wipes, to clean the cows.

We currently dip the units in a peracetic acid solution after milking any high cell count cow (>250 scc) before putting the unit on the next cow.

Post dip is a teat spray.
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Can you use a hydrogen peroxide pre-dip? I've tried the Wipes, Iodine and Chlorhexidine, but like peroxide the best. And if it is a better cow we have had a some luck with vaccinating them for staph and that will raise their titre and help keep their SCC down. It doesn't kill it though.
 
Also Micotil can kill it if it is the correct strain. But it has to be used when dry because it takes a realllly long time to get out of the system and is off label.
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We used Startvac, the Ecoli and Staph Aureus vaccine, until 6 months ago. With the milk price tanking we stopped it to try and save money.

We will probably go back to the vaccine. But I was just considering what other options there were for controlling Staph.
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Put in a home made one about a month ago. Cost £750 (£300 dosage unit,£100 24litre compressor,+£25 per unit)for a 14/28 parlour, works manually takes about 4seconds per cow. Early days so far but has lowered bacto by 20 points.
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Here are my thoughts.

First, I would start pre-dipping rather than using wipes.

I do not recommend hydrogen peroxide because it has the worst bacteria kill of all teat dips. Just FYI. Lactic acid products have the best.

Spraying teats also is worst than a dip cup. Research shows that the coverage on the teats is poorer and results in an increase in SCC. For post dip, I would dip- for pre-dip, either foam or a dip cup.

Also, startvac trials have had really poor success. I probably wouldn't spend the money on them. I think your best bet is to milk the Staph Aureus cows last and not vaccinate. I would suggest finding out if your heifers calve in with Staph Aureus. Flys (horn flies) actually carry Staph Aureus and spread it to heifer's teats.

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Lactic acid, is that your Uddergold type dips? I like peroxide because it cleans the teat really well so even if you don't kill all the bacteria you will gets lots of it off, unlike iodine which isn't on long enough to kill the bacteria. How long does Lactic acid take to kill the bacteria?
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Lactic acid would be like Valiant. Maybe udder gold, I am not sure on that one.

15-20 second kill time.
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