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Is it just me or is there a shortage of good red and white sires available in the UK. There are a few promising young bulls available but nothing stunning, does anyone know what the best ones are? Opinions please! emoticon
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There are no real good red proven bulls around at all but there is some very good young sires from semex like chip red a rubens son from the roxys Radius red from ripple family and lots [sign in to see URL] factor bulls are a safer option because they have more type the best red factor bulls in my opinion are september storm tribute rubens talent elegant red marker the young bull Gillette tribute a rubens son he is half brother to Triumphant seen one calf and it looked real good just like a triumphant and Lystel starfire rubens brother to leduc
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we like our markwell kite RC (skychief x blackrose) calves a lot.
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In my opinion, Arnell Elegant is the best red or *RC bull there has been in recent years. They have super type, and unlike Rubens the will to milk along with more capacity. Our lowest scored is a GP-84 2yr who looks like she could develop into an EX cow someday. The others a EX 3yr and VG-86 2yr. We have another just fresh that's for sure VG @ 2 yr.
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Thanks for the advice, I have already used Markwell Kite(no red ones yet) also Redmarker, Rubens and Distrigene-red, Got a brochure with Ja-Bob Jordan-Red in, He looks quite good except for angularity, anyone seen any?

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Those of you with the Markwell Kite calves - what have you been using him on, we just got a batch of straws in and it would be good to know what he looks like working best on????
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I've seen a fair share of both Jordans and Kites. The Kites tend to hock in with weak pasterns and Jordans can be thick if not used on a dairy cow. The best Jordans I've seen so far are from Lee dams.
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It is not surprising that so few good R&W bulls around. So few are tested compared to B&W. Quite often we don't want to believe reality and the promise of a fancy young sire is more comforting that the reality of yesterdays fancy young sire that looks very ordinary today now its proven.
Its a problem for a lot of colour breeds. Customer demand drives AI to sample several thousand B&W PI's each year and only a handful R&W PI's. RC's seem to provide the best chance of breed improvement when we can tap into B&W pool to get what we need. RED is very popular in Rhineland, Europe but are they PI?
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