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After milking cows in Canada, for 25 years and spending the 1st 15 of those years, thinking our classification system was too hard on young cows. I have come to beleive that it really is not that tough at all. Was on an index tear back in the late eighties, and early ninties, lots of really milky 2 year olds, that did not score well, and rightly so, most didn't last very long. 50,ooo kg's in 5 lactations is a lot better than 25,000 in 2 lactations, from some heifer only a mother could love. You can have both, you just have to have patience. Lots of really good breeders, from all over this planet have become more and more frustrated with these index's for this trait and that, no wonder. Have yet to see someone walk in my barn and ask me "what is her index like" except a sire analist. Their hands are somewhat tied, but these studs like Foundation Sires, or Semex's designer series bulls are becomming more and more popular.
Just have to see what is going on at places like Dupasquier's in Canada. Connie Derboven, in Germany, Indian Head in the US, etc. As for a porcilan modal as a guide line it has to be better than a tin pail. A lot of thought went into this model, and someone who has never seen one really should, wheather you breed cows, or paper tigers.
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My father actually collects animal models from around the world. He currently has about 12 Holstein true types. Holstein Uk actually do have a model, and it is very infromative to compare across countries and decades.

The UK model from 20 years ago is slightly different to today's !!

The UK model is almost identical to the Canadian and US models.

A panel of well known breeders plus some of the classifiers worked to produce the true type. It is an ideal, but tells a lot about the kind of cow we are trying to breed.
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This collection is something I would like to see. Hard to tell where you are going, unless you know were you have been. The holstein has come a very long way indeed, even though we all my have our own opions, on what is ideal.
At least it makes for good discussion.
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Thinking on where we have been and where we are going my father still has a picture of Holmland Ruby 42 hanging on the kitchen wall, i think a little part of him would like to go back to that day!!!!!!!!
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Yes me!!! I was only a baby and ate the cheque for 75,000 pounds when my grandfather sold her in 1978 or 1979. My father saw Ruth at shopland as a heifer and brought her for grandfather. He only paid 400 pounds, i think!!! She was a great cow and is still famous today and the family still going strong. Partically in Ireland. There are some fantastic stories about this cow. If you want to know more get in touch and i will share the stories.
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Errolston, put a leash on that kid or some mittens so he can't type. emoticon
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