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We don't very often show heifers because we don't like ruining their chances on becoming good cows.

The kids here always show heifers in the junior shows, but all they do is pick their best one and clip and wash her and work with her for a couple of weeks.

More like teaching the kids than fitting the heifer. We like to show cows though, but don't do much special for them either.

Shows need people like us to make the winners feel like they've accomplished something. Sometimes we actually win a class. Usually do pretty good in the groups.
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I can think of some cows that were show heifers that calved in pretty darn good. Ashlyn, Tobi, Linjet Joy, Electra, Mason Sterling off the top of my head. Last year's two year old classes were filled with former show heifers named Leduc Kamille, Gibson Sandy, Rosie-O and a host of others. I would say that the heifers are calving in better now than any time in year's past. That whole repuatation came from the days when overaged ulitimates and vintages and the likes were calving in with goat bags emoticon So the heifer management(whatever and as scary as it is) must not have screwed them up too bad.



There are definitely some good show heifers that make good cows. I agree that there are probably more now than in the past. I also think that there are quite a lot of really good show heifers that are never heard from again. I'm just more concerned with them making good cows. I have a little bit of a problem with how "dairy" a good show heifer has to be. Not sure how one can expect to keep all the weight off of a heifer, and then have her calve in and amount to much. I personally would rather see them carry a little flesh before they calve.



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Couldn't agree more Howie, they need that little bit of substance to get them through the first few weeks after calving. My little Bro is showing 2 heifers at our calf show this week. 1 is a Leduc that is carrying too much condition but she is in the condition we like, he wants to show her as he showed her last year at our local ag. show and won the class. The second is a January born Dramatic who is in a better show condition, we have our fingers crossed for this one.

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Any one use Organic hay for their show calves... Supposed to be much more beneficial. emoticon
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If the judges want them too thin, change the judges not the calves.

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Any one use Organic hay for their show calves... Supposed to be much more beneficial. emoticon


You think the calf can tell regular hay from that organic stuff ? emoticon

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You think humans can tell regular food from the organic stuff, without the packaging???

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Exactly big lad. You took the words right out of my mouth.

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You think humans can tell regular food from the organic stuff, without the packaging???


Hell, even lab tests can't tell them apart.



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I don't know about you guys, but the Northern Ireland intensive pasture is sown out almost entirely with high-yielding perennial ryegrass, and wee bit of clover thrown in. From the point of view of agronomy, this is the most productive sward.

I don't believe that organic produce has magical properties (as the UK public are led to believe). However, one thing an organic sward has is more diversity of species. Now it could be possible that a different balance of protein degradations, plant digestibilities and mineral/element levels could produce different effects on animal performance.

Thoughts?

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We had Philip Davies (Gornal) speak in Dorset a couple of years ago, and he included a mixture of various herbs and other things in his grassland, something he had learnt from the Grove herd.

Cows will nibble at all sorts of things on their way around the farm here, and pick into the hedges. Might they be getting something from that which they wouldn't otherwise get if they were housed all lactation?
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