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Registered: 06-2004
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beautiful pastures that go with all the great wet weather. emagine what ni could manage if it got some sun shine. Folks back home are gagging for some good weather wish i could swap the sun shine for some rain, some grass a bit of greenery is nice every time i fly home its a different season and landing in belfast the scenery is amazing. oh for the green glens of antrim, i'd swap them for the sand dunes any day but unfortunately the Northern irish don't appreciate the cost of a good manager. but hopefully that'll change one day.
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its a day dreaming that keeps us going

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The Blue Hills of Antrim I see in my dreams,

The high hills of Antrim, the Glens and the streams,

In sunlight and shadow, in weal and in woe,

The sweet vision haunts me where ever I go.


PS We do appreciate the value of a good manager, but we don't get Saudi milk price!

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FOAF - Just read how to find a wife, in Dairy & Beef mag, and thought you would get a kick out of it. "For young dairy farmers it is increasingly difficult to find a wife. Many women cannot imagine a future on a family farm, where they would have to milk every AM,PM 7 days a week. The solution for bachelor farmers, would be to invest in an automated milking system. This would fre him and his future wife wife from thr rigors of a regular milking rhythm."
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That's great canuk, lol. Just get one of those automated milking systems and farmers will have to beat the woman off with a stick. emoticon
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bizarre!I would think lack of avalible wives has more to do with lack of money in the country and therefore lack of job opportunities.
regarding pastures when we replanted 12 acres with summer pasture mix we included chicory and had noticed it is what the cows go for first when they go into thoise paddocks.I am keen to try a chicory/lucerne blend for grazing but havnt convinced hubby yet.
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Is lucerne suseptible to frost?

(Why else do you think I installed robots!? The cows think it is for them, but I have other motives :devil )
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Don't know about frost but it hates compaction.

We grew it for four years, and made baled silage of it, never dared to graze it apart from clearing up on the aftermaths. If we got it right it made fantastic feed, but it heated very quickly once the bale was opened. The cows would leave anything else for it, but wouldn't touch any remains after about 10 hours.
If we got the cutting or the weather wrong it could happily make wet muck or got extremely woody very quickly.

Yielded similar to grass but with less inputs once established.
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I don't imagine frost troubles you greatly.

Woody? I believe it requires frequent cutting. More so than grass?

Perhaps it needs to be clamped with an additive to preserve it on the way out again?

I take it then that you like the crop? Does it reduce feed protein input? Is it economic then? Still grow it?

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No, frost doesn't trouble us greatly, there's a subtropical garden just down the road.

Yes, it does require frequent cutting. we were cutting four or five times a year, but if the weather held up a cut it got very woody very quickly. Also if we tried to dry it like hay in the field all we achieved was for the leaves to fall off.

Not sure about clamping, we were advised not to put it in the clamp with the grass (can't remember why now), and we weren't going to grow enough for a clamp on its own.

Yes I liked the crop. Yes the cows liked it. Yes I would say it was economic. No, I don't grow it any more, because of the problems with it heating when opened. If I had enough cows about to use a bale quickly I would probably grow it again.



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Does it grow beyond PRG at each end of year the way Italian would? We can't really get away with Italian because of this, especially late in the year when ground conditions deteriorate. Also, getting the chance to cut it often would be a hassle with our weather. I do have a little desire to undersow wheat with lucerne just to see what would result.

How do you expect your first cut to analyse this year?
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