imont
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
The question is; Is the ligament too strong or are the teats placed too far under the quarters?????
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24/4/2004, 20:23
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MarkDay
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
Both in this case!
If it was just the teat placement you should still be able to see them from the side view don't you think?
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24/4/2004, 20:31
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simon powell
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
Call me narrow minded if you like, but I'm not convinced!!!!
Is there not a position on this cows udder, where her teats could be placed to allow "normal" milking?
What % of the national cow population do you think display these characteristics, compared to % cows that blow their bags?
Structural physics dictates that for a cows udder to carry large volumes of milk, over many lactations, IT MUST BE WELL SUPPORTED!!!
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24/4/2004, 21:27
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
Never seen teats anywhere near as close as this but don't think you can blame too much on the ligament.
If the teats were square on the bottom of the quarter I don't think you'd be saying it had too much ligament.
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24/4/2004, 21:34
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MarkDay
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
The base of the teats aren't that close but the ligament has pulled the quarters in and up.If I was to pull the quarters apart you would see that the quarters don't finish where you can see them and that the teats don't both come out of the same place!
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24/4/2004, 22:13
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Will Richardson
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
Never seen teats that close ever .. brave man milking her without turning the radio up !!
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24/4/2004, 23:39
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
Never seen anything that extreme, surely a genetic aberation, it looks like the udder is eating the teats and is about to swallow them.
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25/4/2004, 6:25
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
That is retarded! :uo
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25/4/2004, 9:57
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Re: Too much of a good thing ?
I have a third calver who has an udder very like this. In fact, i would almost have said that it was her if I hadn't known she was yours!
Basar x Gibbon x Aerostar
In this case, I think that it is entirely possible that the teats are in the correct place on the quarter. But the ligament is pulling so much of the surface of the quarter up inside the crease, that you loose perspective of where the centre of the quarter is.
As for % of cows that blow their udders compared to these sort, I can't comment on national figures - but I have not had even one blow an udder in years, but I have many with too much crease.
Perhaps people shouldn't stuff their cows full of meal before calving. Thats only asking for all sorts of bother.
Structural physics dictates that for an udder to carry large volumes of milk over many lactations...
.... it must be SUFFICIENTLY supported.
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25/4/2004, 13:47
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